1958 Dunhill ODA Shell 835 #424144GL (RESERVED)
This large Billiard has a bowl rim that is crisp and clean, sharp
nomenclature, a mark-free stem & a wide-open draw.  It will
probably be the best smoker in any collection, and doubly so if
the blend contains latakia.  That's my guess, anyway. Used.
6.5" long, bowl 2.2" tall.  Weight: 2 3/8 oz., 67 grams. $425.
Pre-Transition Barling #227288KM
The shape # is 238 and the bowl is in very good cond.  The
nomenclature is buffed down but it is all there and legible.  The
stem is most likely a  replacement stem & thus has no Barling
logo on it.  Wide-open draw and great Bird's Eye.  Used.
5.65" long, bowl 1.65" tall.  1.5 oz., 41 grams. $175.
Peterson Silver Spigot #227298CO
The hallmark letter is tiny, but it appears to be an "F" and so it
may be a 1991.  It's a Grp 3 in exc. cond., actually near-new,
with an open draw.  All the nomenclature is on the silver.  Used.
4.75" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 3/8 oz., 38 grams.  $125.
Peterson's Premier #42449
Grp 3 size, in exc. cond., with an open draw & sterling ferrule.
4.4" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight: 1.75 oz., 48 grams. Used.$75
1940 Pat. # Shell #42424RF
While on the phone recently with legendary pipe repair/restore
man Ronni B, we were talking about the historical value of col-
lecting WWII era pipes.  It does not appear to be a category that
attracts attention, although there are so many interesting,
diverse pieces that can be amassed.  As this does not have
a Pat. # that indicates it was made in the U.S., it must have been
made in England...during the Blitz?  This is a historically
significant pipe and in exc. cond.  It's a Grp. 3.  Dig it.  Used.
5.7" long, bowl 1.65" tall.  Weight: 5/8 oz., 19 grams. $450.
Ashton XX Pebble Grain #1112127
Silly me, I forgot to photograph the other side of the bowl.  No
matter, really, on this well grained sandblast.  The briar is
clearly hard and the blast displays tight grain all around.  The
cond. is exc. for both stem, bowl & chamber.  It's a Grp. 4 in size
& the draw is open.  I think it's from 1992, 'cause there's a "12"
after the "England," but there's also an extra 2 before the "12.
5.75" long, bowl 1.4" tall.  Weight: 1.5 oz., 43 grans. Used. $165
1997 Dunhill xmas Pipe 5 Gold Rings #329156 (RESERVED)
No. 201 of 500 produced for Xmas of '97.  There is some wear
at one point of the rim, but the stem is mark-free.  The original
case is in exc. cond., & it has some fine Bird's Eye to dwell on.
5.65" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight: 1 5/8 oz., 46 grams. $525.
1971 Dunhill Shell #42420RF (SOLD 7/9/18)
The condition of this Grp. 4 (which still means it is a small pipe,
based on the shape) is near-new.  The white trim adds a hand-
some touch.  I don't recall if it's commonly used on this model.
What is definitely not common is the superb vertical grain that is
revealed by the blast.  The draw is wide-open.  Used.
4.55" long, bowl 1.4" tall.  Weight: 5/8 oz., 19 grams. $245.
Comoy's Blue Riband #424114GL
This pipe needs an experienced, gentle smoker.  While the rim
and most of the chamber are in very good condition, it has
been smoked hot.  If poorly treated, it could burn through.  If
treated carefully, it will last indefinitely.  The stem is a
replacement & the draw is open.  The taste is clean...it was not
subjected to aromatics or even latakia.  Used.
5.75" long, bowl 1.55" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 34 grams. $45.
Pre-Transition Barling Special #623265AG
It's a "Special" because of the fine cross grain that runs up &
down both sides of the bowl.  The shape # is a 3 digit "487" &
the size is an EXEL.  Besides being a
Special,  it also has the
Ye Olde Wood & T.V.F. designations.  The stem logo is almost
entirely buffed out, with only the merest vestiges visible, but it is
clearly there, declaring this to be an original stem.  On the rim is
a bit of normal carbon residue.  All-in-all, a fine example of good
old Barling briar.  Open draw.  Used.
5.5" long, bowl 1.8" tall.  Weight: 1 3/8 oz., 40 grams. $325.
Orlik DeLuxe #424158GL
In exc. cond., with pristine stem & open draw.  Grp. 4 size.
Classic shape & classic old English name. Used.
5.45" long, bowl 1.55" tall.  Weight: 1 oz., 29 grams. $65.
Pulvers' Prior Briar
P.O. Box 61146
Palo Alto, CA  

(650) 965-7403
Pre-Transition Barling's EL #21431
This pipe is in such good condition, that it's a shame that it was two
major cosmetic flaws.  The one issue is the damage to the outside
of the rim as pictured on the top right.  Obviously, the damage
done had nothing to do with the smoking of the pipe.  Secondly,
the stem which is probably original based on what I can see & feel,
does not have the Barling's logo, indicating it was buffed off.  It's a
Grp. 3 or small 4 in size.  The nomenclature is clean and crisp and
the shape # is 329.  This will smoke like a good, old Barling.  Used.
5.5" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 oz., 28 grams. $150.
'98 Dunhill Shell #623184 (SOLD 7/26/18)
This almost gives the look of a stubby, maybe because the stem
appears short in relation to a large bowl and long shank.  It is a
Grp. 5 size & I can almost fit my thumb into the chamber.  The
cond. is exc., & the draw wide-open.  If you're into details, the
shape # is 5110.  Used.
5.35" long, bowl 1.95" tall.  Weight: 1.75 oz., 51 grams. $175.
2003 Dunhill Cumberland #62398
Cumberland, or Shell, it makes no difference...As there's no
smooth top that signifies a real Cumberland (by my definition)
this can be looked at as a Shell with a dark brown stain and a
brindle stem.  It's nice.  Wide-open draw, when the metal tube is
removed, Grp. 4 size (shape 4103).  New.
5.5" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 33 grams. $375.
1968 Dunhill Tanshell #424149GL (SOLD 7/16/18)
No teeth marks, a crisp inner chamber rim, shapr nomenclature.
If there's a negative about this pipe, it's because of a positive...
the previous owner liked smoking it enough to both take excel-
lent care of it but also soften the blast with lots of hand-holding.
It's a Grp 3 size & the draw is wide-open.  The taste is very
subtle, but maybe it was used with a mild latakia blend.  Used.
5.35" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 oz., 27 grams. $145.
Upshall B "FH" & "HC" #227268KM
This might be the elephant in the room.  It is that large. the B
grade is higher than their standard, high quality, P grade & the
grain reflects that.  I don't know what the "HC" stands
for...maybe 'hand cut?'  The condition is excellent, with no wear
on the rim (a little inevitable carbon residue) & no marks on the
stem.  "Extra Large" is stamped on the shank, but that seems
like rather superfluous information to anyone but Paul Bunyan.
7.7" long, bowl 3.4" tall.  Weight: 4 oz., 114 grams. Used. $225.
Barling's Make Ye Olde Wood #26753
The bowl, the rim, the chamber, the nomenclature are all in
exc. cond.  The shape # is a 3 digit 233 and the size is
stamped as EL.  It's about the size and shape of a Dunhill LB.  
The draw is wide-open, but the stem is almost assuredly new,
and the stem logo is definitely newly minted.   Vulcanite. Used
6" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight: 1.5 oz., 41 grams. $225.
Upshall P #111278  (RESERVED)
This is a large pipe with an inner chamber diameter that is just
shy of 1".  The cond. is exc., with an open draw & construction
that makes it easy for a cleaner to go right through to the bowl.
The vulcanite stem is original, with the "JU" logo on the top &
nothing more than very minor tooth chatter on the stem bottom.
6.5" long, bowl 2.6" tall.  Weight: 2 oz., 55 grams. Used.  $75.
Willmer Extra #17251 (SOLD)
No fills, but there is a spot of carving on the bottom of the bowl.
Grp. 5 size, in very good cond., with no marks on the stem &
just a a touch of wear on the rim.  This appears to be an early
Willmer, before the company's products began to become
inferior.  If it's old briar, it will smoke very well.  Used.
5.15" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 7/8 oz., 54 grams. $35.
Peterson Sherlock Holmes #623189
This pipe was smoked once, and not for a particularly long time.
A lot of the original stain is still visible in the chamber.  Not only
is it near new, it has a very good quality cross grain & Bird's
Eye. The size is Grp. 5 and the draw is fairly open, always a
challenge for the Peterson pipe makers.  Used.
5.15" long, bowl 2" tall.  Weight: 2 oz., 57 grams. $95.
Dunhill Root #424185MW
I believe this is a 1970 piece, based on the hard to read number
after the "D" in "England (it looks like the # 0 was stamped over
the "D."  The nomenclature is a little dull in places, but all is
present and legible.  The stem & bowl are in great cond., &
the cross grain is sharp, as is the Bird's Eye on one side of the
bowl.  It's a healthy Grp. 3 size, and the draw is open.  Used.
5.3" long, bowl 1.7" tall.  Weight: 1 1/8 oz., 30 grams. $185.
Comoy's Blue Riband #227250MW
Grp. 3 in size, with an open draw and in exc. cond., with a hint of
tooth chatter on the bottom of the stem.  It has the 3 part "C."
The nomenclature isn't new & crisp, but it is all there, with no
rubouts, and easily legible.  Used
5.5" long, bowl 1.7" tall.  Weight: 1 1/8 oz. 32 grams. $145.
Barling Guinea Grain #424-83
A touch of wear is visible at one part of the inner bowl rim,
and the logo on the stem is freshly stamped.  The "Barling"
is in script; family era Guinea Grains employ a "Barling's,"
with an apostrophe 's'.  The 4 digit shape number is 5294
so the conclusion is that this is post family production.   It
appears to be a Grp. 4 in size with a wide-open draw.  Used.
5.25" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight:1oz., 27 grams. $65.
George Huybrecht London Castle #61548CO (SOLD 7/6/18)
I am more than tempted to call this a 'quaint' shape, although I
don't know what that means, although to me it means an old,
English-style shape such as produced by the Ben Wade pipes
produced in their Leeds factory, or some of the old BBBs.  This
pipe's shape is hardly represented by current pipe makers.  The
thick shank and somewhat bulbous bowl suggest a Rhodesian.
Wide-open draw, vulcanite stem & a large Grp. 4 size.  New.
5.25" long, bowl 1.7" tall.  Weight: 2 1/8 oz., 60 grams. $110.
1971 Dunhill Bruyere #424213LW  (SOLD)
The year of production is not all that clear to me, but it is my
best guess from the stamping, which is otherwise crisp & clear.
There is a very slight touch of wear on the inner chamber rim;
the rest of the pipe is in exc. cond.  It's a Grp. 4 size.  with an
open draw.  I think the Cavalier in smooth finish is uncommon.
4.2" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1.5 oz., 42 grams. Used. $275
Dunhill Shell Shape #10882CO
The shape # is 3205, so this must have sold as a Grp. 3 in size,
but it is clearly a full-fledged 4, so right away, you're a leg up if
you get this Dunhill.  In fact, I can almost fit my thumb into the
chamber.  The year of production, stamped after the "England"
is blurry, but I'm going to guess it's a 1998.  At any rate, it's
from the '90's and is unsmoked, with the tube still in the shank.
Even with the tube in, the draw is wide-open.  Thick walls &
nice, pronounced blast, too.  New.
5.65" long, bowl 1.8" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 37 grams. $315
Peterson Silver Spigot #424133AG
This Grp. 3 size Billiard (maybe it's a small 4 in size) is best
characterized by its deep, sharp curtain blast.  The cond. is exc.
& with a standard button at the end of the ebonite stem, the
draw is wide-open.  The hallmark is a capital "F" but I can't find
the year among the hallmark sites.  Used.
5.75" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 oz., 30 grams. $125
Comoy's Blue Riband #424154GL (SOLD 6/24/18)
Beautiful condition is the appeal of this pipe.  It has all the
necessities, with a 3 part "C," an open draw & crisp
nomenclature.  Used.
5.5" long, bowl 1.65" tall.  Weight: 1.5 oz, 44 grams. $175.
1969 Dunhill Bruyere #623131
Heavy-handed with the lighter & thus the erosion of part of the
rim. The rest of the pipe is in very good cond.  No tooth marks
on the stem, top or bottom, & the nomenclature is all there &
quite legible. Shape # is 56 F/T & it is stamped Grp. 4. A
cleaner easily goes through to the chamber.  Used.
5.25" long, bowl 1.8" tall.  Weight; 1.5 oz., 44 grams. $125.
1985 Dunhill Chestnut #424173 (RESERVED)
Although some of the nomenclature has been buffed down, all
of it is legible (reading the date and the "Made in England)"
might take a little scrutiny).  It is a Grp 4 & while the rim is not
pristine, it is in very good cond., with no charring.  Used.
5.7" long, bowl 1.5" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 35 grams. $175.
Pre-Transition Barling's Special EXEL #101470AG
The pipe shape # is 447 and the residue of the original stem is
visible.  Also, the cond. is exc., with a very clean stem and bowl
rim.  If there is any drawback to this pipe, I think that the thick-
ness of the wall is not in proper proportion the the diameter of
the chamber.  I would guess that the pipe might thus smoke
hot.  Yet, the pipe is used and there is no hot, or dark, spots on
bowl, so one can presume it does not smoke hot.  
5.5" long, bowl 1.95" tall.  Weight: 1 3/8 oz., 39 grams. $175
BBB #89-024SR
The stamping on the band does not add up to a hallmark date,
so I don't know the exact year of this pipe, but the hole at the
end of the stem indicates a very old pipe, as does the sold
"BBB" stamped on the shank, without any other identifying info.
It is a Grp. 2 in size.  Other than the wear on the rim, the pipe is
in excellent cond.  You can see the diamond outline of the BBB
logo on the stem, but the letters have been buffed off. Used.
5" long, bowl 1.5" tall.  Weight: 1 oz., 28 grams. $135.
Upshall P #623174
When cleaning this pipe, I noticed a dark spot at the bottom of
the bowl, right where it also felt a bit thin.  Worried about a
problem, I smoked the pipe.  It does get hot there, and would
profit greatly from a bit of cigar ash paste.  But it only got quite
hot, it did not burn out and until the tobacco hit that area it
smoked like a fine Upshall should.  I hardly need another pipe,
so I'm offering it at a very appealing pipe.  Grp. 4 size. Used.
6" long, bowl 1.7" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 34 grams. $45.
1986 Peterson Gold Spigot #117176AG
Grp. 5 in excellent condition with an open draw and no marks on
the stem at all.  Fine, deep blast and well hallmarked.  Interest-
ingly, there is no nomenclature stamped on the briar.  Used.
6.25" long, bowl 1.95" tall.  Weight: 1 7/8 oz., 53 grams. $275.
1978 Dunhill Grp 6 Shell #623179
Just a touch of carbon residue on the inner chamber rim keeps
this from being officially in excellent condition, but by my loose
standards, I think it's in that condition, anyway.  It's true, if you
are anal retentive, I am not your vendor of choice.  Without
going into the details, this pipe is just fine, with an open draw &
no aromatics to have to deal with.  Actually, with pipes at this
level, it's infrequent that I come across a pipe that was used for
aromatics, and so I don't even bother mentioning it.  Used.
6 5/8" long, bowl 2.15" tall.  Weight: 2 1/8 oz., 59 grams. $195.
Charatan Selected #111259
With a little wear visible on the inner rim, you can't say that this
is in excellent condition, but that wear can't detract from the
very solid nature of the pipe.  Let's call it substantial.  The
chamber walls are plenty thick enough for the chamber
diameter & the shank is good & strong.  It does have the Lane
"L" on it and the draw is open.  Grp. 6 in size.  Used.
5.65" long, bowl 2.15" tall.  Weight: 2 1/8 oz., 62 grams. $125.
1982 Dunhill Root Briar #227179
This is a Grp 4, with shape #41022.  With just a little turning the
pipe cleaner went through to the bottom of the chamber.  For
a basic Dunhill, there is a lot of good straight grain & no bad
grain.  The draw is open.  The condition is New.
5.5" long, bowl 1.9" tall.  Weight: 1.5 oz., 43 grams. $445.
Peterson's Dunmore #623116 (SOLD 7/13/18)
Grp 3 in size, but in exc. cond.& with a lot of nice Bird's Eye &
cross grain.  The shank treatment, near the stem is a handsome
touch, too.  Because of a little flat area on the bottom of the
shank, the pipe will sit up.  Used.
4.95" long, bowl 1.8" tall.  Weight: 1 5/8 oz., 48 grams. $35.
Ashton LX Sovereign #102164BK
The pipe is in exc. cond., but maybe the first thing to know about it
is that the front of the bowl has much better grain than shows in
this head-on photo.  I guess it's because of reflective light.  I think
the year is 1997, but the "17" which would indicate that year is
stamped in an unusual spot on the shank, so I'm not sure. Used.
6" long, bowl 2.15" tall.  Weight: 2.75 oz., 77 grams. $285
Petereson 2001 Limited Edition 327306CO
Handsome, but be careful when holding it while smoking 'cause
that silver rim will get hot.  It's a Grp 5 in size with an open draw
& solid grain all around, with good Bird's Eye on the flat bottom
(the pipe does sit).  As you can see, it comes with a good
looking wood stand.  There is a little dent on the rim. Used.
5.45" long, bowl 2" tall.  Weight: 2 5/8 oz., 73 grams. $175.
Larrysson #89222FT
Made in 2009, this pipe is in exc. cond.  It hints strongly at
Charatan influence, most noticeably in its design excesses.  
Despite thick walls, the tobacco chamber is very narrow, just
over 6/10" making it difficult to fill the bowl.  Well, difficult for me
because the pipe has been smoked, although not a lot. Used.
5.6" long, bowl 1.9" tall.  Weight: 2 oz., 58 grams. $225.
1999 Dunhill HT XL Collector Tanshell #62321
The size of the pipe is what first grabs your attention.  The "XL"
stamping clearly means 'extra large' and the "HT" means hand-
turned.  There is some carbon residue on the plateau rim but
the stem is mark-free.  The chamber is big enough to take my
thumb and the draw is open.  Used.
6.25" long, bowl 2.65" tall.  Weight: 2 5/8 oz., 75 grams. $285.
1914 Comoy's #62350RC (SOLD 7/7/18)
We old time pipe guys have one abiding fantasy...to meet
someone who is surprised to hear about somebody who is
interested in pipes and they say, "oh, my grandfather had a
pipe shop, but had to close it when he was drafted for WWII.
We still have the contents of that store in our basement...would
you be interested in it?"  Anyhow, here is the kind of pipe that
haunts our dreams.  Look at the condition...maybe a mere hint
of wear at one spot of the inner rim, barely discernible.  Used.
4.8" long, bowl 1.8" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 37 grams. $350.
1949 Dunhill Shell #623194
Much of the pat. number is illegible, due perhaps, to sloppy
stamping and not wear or buffing, but enough of the essentials
are clear and it's almost certainly a 1949.  The character of the
blast is a good indicator, too.  The cond. is very good, with just
inconsequential tooth marks on the stem.  There is one area in
the chamber that is a little concave, but it isn't charred or crispy
& no sign of burn exists inside or out.  It's very minor, but it does
exist on this Grp. 4.  The stem looks original.  Used.
5.5" long, bowl 1.85" tall.  Weight: 1.25 oz., 35 grams. $245.
1980 Dunhill Bruyere #62355
With shape # 22011, I'm assuming that Dunhill is calling this a
Grp. 2 size.  Could be.  Could also be a Grp. 3 if one goes by
Dunhill's size chart.  The stem has a very minor tooth mark on
the bottom and a little wear on the inner rim towards the front of
the bowl.  And if you look hard for it, you can find some scratch
marks on the side of the bowl.  The draw is open.  Used.
5.45" long, bowl 1.5" tall.  Weight: 1 1/8 oz., 32 grams. $125.
Peterson's Premier #121464  (SOLD 6/19/18)
a large Grp. 5 high grade Peterson with a gold "P" logo in the
side of the stem.  Shape 106S.  The walls of the bowl are thick
and the rim is clean and crisp with one minor exception.  The
stem is bite-mark free.  I do see a little ding on the top of the
bowl in the top left photo.  The poor draw is standard for a P-lip
and should not be a deterrent to Peterson devotees.  Used.
6" long, bowl 2" tall.  Weight: 1 5/8 oz., 46 grams. $75.
2004 Dunhill Xmas Pipe..12 Lords a Leaping #329168
I am just so amused at the sight of these 12 lords leaping off the
Tower of London, or so I imagine it.  I guess Henry VIII is after
their necks.  No. 22 of 500 Xmas pipes, and it does come with its
original book-like case.  Everything is in exc. cond.  Used.
5.75" long, bowl 2.1" tall.  Weight: 2.5 oz., 72 grams. $575.L
Peterson Limited Edition 2002 #227301CO (SOLD 7/12/18)
In near-new cond., with an open draw.  It's a Grp. 6 size & the
tenon can take a 9mm filter if you so choose.  No need to do so,
and the pipe will function just five.  FYI, it's pipe # 246 of 1,000.
(It doesn't say that...I'm just guessing.  OK, It does say it.)  The
cross grain extends to the bottom of the shank & bowl.   Used.
6 1/8" long, bowl 2" tall.  Weight: 2.25 oz., 64 grams. $145
Northern Briar Rox Cut Premier #1112124 (SOLD 4/27/18)
This pipe is larger than it initially seems.  I was going to call it a
Grp. 5 size, but using the Dunhill size chart, it easily qualifies as
a Grp. 6.  Regardless, it is a two bead Squat Bulldog, is Ian
Walker's higher grade, Premier, and is unsmoked.
6" long, bowl 1.9" tall.  Weight: 2 oz., 57 grams. New.  $150.
Ashton LX Old Church #424-93CO
Handsome & large with a silver ferrule that has both a sterling
hallmark and an "A" on it for Ashton.  The nomenclature has
something unique to me...a "JC" for Jim Craig, I'm sure.  This
is a Bill Ashton era pipe, but Jim was the working apprentice at
the time, as I understand it.  My thumb fits easily into the
chamber.  The draw is open and the pipe is unsmoked.  New.
7" long, bowl 2.25" tall.  Weight: 2 7/8 oz., 80 grams. $325
Charatan Free Hand Relief #8901
Grp. 7 in size with a great, deep blast.  The way the rim is cut, it
almost looks as though there's an insert in the chamber, but I do
not think that's the case, unless the carver decided he cut the
chamber too large and then put in a briar insert.  In any case,
the previous owner liked the pipe and smoked it a lot, yet
preserved it so that all is intact, with clear nomenclature, a  stem
without tooth marks and a "CP" that is still visible, plus the Lane
"L" logo on the shank bottom.  The draw is wide-open. Used.
6 1/8" long, bowl 2.1" tall.  Weight: 2 oz., 55 grams. $95.
Barling's #62379  (SOLD 8/12/18)
Here is a description/explanation of what you are looking at in
the photos above.  The info comes from noted Barling's scholar
(and he is a scholar) Jesse Silver: "that rim has been reshaped
and refinished, as the only beveled rim pipes Barling made
were pots.  This pipe is a type referred to in the 1962 Barling
150th Anniversary catalog as a "Billiard Short Oval" and it's
model number was 6584.  This is one of those pipes made
during the first half to three quarters of 1962.  The rim was
originally flat.  The original stem was a standard Barling
tapered stem with a length of about 2 3/4".  The P-lip is
obviously a replacement, and the band is not original.
6" long, bowl 2" tall.  Weight: 1 7/8 oz., 53 grams. Used. $85.
Charatan's Make #424163GL (SOLD 6/29/18)
Near new in cond., with all parts of the stem & bowl in clean &
crisp.  It has the Lane "L," & the draw is open, but best of all is
that superb ring grain blast.  This is the version to keep for
your collection & dump the Charatan Pot in 2nd place. Used.
5.9" long, bowl 1.6" tall.  Weight: 1 3/8 oz., 38 grams. $95.
GBD New Standard #424168GL (SOLD 7/9/18)
Straight up Grp. 4 in exc. cond. with crisp rondell and nomen-
clature.  The draw is open.  How wrong could you go?  Used.
5.7" long, bowl 1.75" tall.  Weight: 1 1/8 oz., 32 grams. $50.